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PHOSGENE GAS AND WELDING: IS IT BAD?

Phosgene became infamous when it was used as chemical warfare in World War I. In numerous welding forums and opinion pieces, people share concerns about phosgene gas produced while welding.

Is this a fact or a myth?

phosgene gas

Phosgene is used in some industrial processes. It can also occur as a breakdown product from chemicals called chlorinated hydrocarbon solvents. These have names like trichloroethylene and methylene chloride.

 

These are very common chemicals. Pesticides, degreasing chemicals, and solvents are all examples. Older refrigerators also still contain coolants that can convert to phosgene when heated. According to the available information, phosgene is produced as a component of welding fumes when metal that’s been cleaned with a solvent or degreaser (brake cleaner is the usual culprit).

 

In one example, a man using repairing a refrigerator was exposed to phosgene as a result of heating the coolant with a welding torch. He suffered extreme shortness of breath and irritation to his throat and lungs. He was admitted to intensive care and recovered. There are many other stories of people reporting that they or someone they know was exposed to and injured by phosgene welding fumes.

 

So what are the facts?

 

Some brake cleaners, degreasers, and solvents do contain chlorinated hydrocarbons. These products carry a warning label about toxic gases and fumes, and some of them specifically mention phosgene. Warning labels, while not exciting reading, should always be followed. So it’s absolutely possible to poison yourself with phosgene if using these chemicals incorrectly.

 

Is it a real danger for welders?

 

There doesn’t seem to be much solid information about that. The example of the man who was injured while using a welding torch to work on an old refrigerator is true (Journal of Accident and Emergency Medicine, 12 pp212-213 (1995)). Many people report that they or someone else suffered an exposure to phosgene while welding something that had been cleaned with brake cleaner. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of reliable information about this problem, though. It’s definitely something that could happen, but there’s not much information about how often it actually does happen.

 

Do you know someone this has happened to, or has it happened to you? Have you ever experienced dangerous fumes while welding? Do you have any information about welding, phosgene gas, and brake cleaner that people should know about?

 

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2009-12/dont-get-careless

http://www.thefabricator.com/article/arcwelding/cleaning-material-with-brake-cleaner-before-welding-a-risky-move-that-can-turn-deadly

http://www.aristatek.com/Newsletter/JULY10/JULY10ts.aspx